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Transcript

Ep 30 - Scott's Edit UPLOAD ME.wav
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[MUSIC]
Hey, how do you like that music, Scott?
One question.
For your ladies music, or is this synth wave?
So it's new to me, it's called Future Funk, it is a brother of synth wave.
And I dug into this and it's funny because they got all of these varieties of songs that are like
Debbie Gibson backing tracks or some of the Fox backing tracks or
everything just sounds like old 80s shit in a different way than the synth wave that I taught everybody about last time.
Okay, so you weren't a fan of the synth wave, you were like, yeah, I can't get into this.
I'm not a synth wave every day.
What about Future Funk?
Yeah, I don't know, man.
I think my music's from the 60s and the 70s.
I don't think I'm a huge 80s guy.
I have my favorites from the 80s, but if I'm listening to something from the 80s,
I wouldn't hear that, not something that sounds like that.
I just hear this music and names pop into my head like Sheena Eastern.
I thought this was Sheena Eastern when you started playing it.
It might as well be Sheena Eastern.
Yeah, it's a complete copy of that sound.
I don't know if I'm listening to something that sounds like Sheena Eastern.
I'm just going to listen to Sheena Eastern.
Problem is Sheena Eastern isn't making any new music, but Future Funk is.
In fact, this band is called Exacta.
This song is called Tupper Wave.
I like this other band, too.
They're called Barb Walters.
Barb Walters.
It just sounds like shoulder pads.
Yeah, it does.
A lot of puppy clothes, headbands.
I take it back.
No shoulder pads.
I feel like this is one giant scoop neck with one shoulder out.
I heard roller skates in there.
Hmm, baby.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's our show.
Too much CG.
I hope you enjoyed learning about Future Funk.
Bring in new stuff that I find.
It's just what this is about.
It's just what the show is about, Scott.
All of you just have to listen to all the shit that I find.
Because my wife is so tired of hearing about it, I had to make a podcast to make everybody
else suffer, because I can't have a small audience.
I must have a bigger audience.
And I am very, very thankful for the sudden surge of new listeners that we got in this
last week.
I can't totally tell where you're coming from, but I'm really glad you're here.
I just pray you're not fast.
You're not from Estonia.
So there's a very good chance that these are real people.
Four people are from Estonia.
We found the Estonians.
They came back at least the Estonian bots.
He has to be half.
All right, well, I'll take the four Estonian bots plus all the other new listeners we have.
Hey, everybody, a quick reminder if you would be so kind as the recommend, I was said,
if you would be so kind as to rewind.
Remember that fucking thing you saw in those, yeah, I'm digging into the nostalgia already.
If you would be so kind as the recommend, our show to people that you think would like
it, that would really matter a lot to us because we're that kind of show that works
best with word of mouth.
It's not a whole lot of 40 year olds hanging out on TikTok here about new podcasts.
So you know, we're a perfect show for the people like you 40 year olds still listening
to the same stuff that you listen to when you were growing up, still watching the same
shit that you were watching when you were growing up.
Be part of our tribe.
Welcome to too much CGI.
Scott, it was Father's Day.
What did you do?
Amen.
Happy belated.
I grilled.
I smoked some ribs and some chicken.
And my in-laws over, my parents over, my brother and his wife came over.
It was a good time.
But prior to the holiday, I had to hang out with you and your son and my son and it was
a good time.
How about that?
I don't think those kids had seen each other in, I don't think they remembered seeing each
other, but I'm pretty sure they met.
They've definitely been in the same room.
No, dude, I'm convinced that they, last time I saw Will, I don't think Chase was born.
Wow.
I'm flies, man.
It does, man, real, real fast, real fucking fast.
Try to keep tabs on a teenager, especially now with the way the phones are.
And within that phone is an entire universe.
We do nothing of when we were young.
So like our universe was maybe our backyard down the street.
Yeah, man.
It's crazy to be a kid now.
So that's shit that moved so fast our kids grew up so fast.
Everything is just, I'm telling everybody at work because, you know, I work in tech.
I do marketing.
I'm like, guys, we just went through an amazing, quick, growth,
spurred to say, I think, I mean, that just goes the show like how fast things can go sometimes
when you're not looking.
What's that dumb, uh, first, your line?
Take a look at smell the roses.
Life goes pretty fast.
You'll slow down and look around.
Like just miss it or something of that effect.
Something like that.
You did very good.
We did something when we hung out.
Yeah.
You went across the spiderverse.
We saw a flick.
It's hard to get me to go to a movie theater, but we tried a new movie theater because I only
go to the, uh, the hoi, the toy, the, uh, they call it the movie tab right here.
I don't even know if that's a thing everywhere, but there's one movie theater that I go to because
they feed you.
But other than that, I hate the movie theater experience.
So you were like, Hey, let's go to the local one.
I was secretly terrified because I knew it would just be noisy people and crunching popcorn
and crying kids.
And I knew that it would just be a, a, a shit show.
And man, I was very pleased.
It was a great experience.
Yeah.
Like you were surprised to see the reclining chairs and have the space and I thought you knew
what we were getting into.
No.
I didn't know the theaters went that way because I remember them being really small and really
tight.
Absolutely.
No usher is coming in to point the flashlight of people who were talking because that's
what I used to like when I was a kid.
I could go to the theater and I'd know I'd get a quiet experience because some pimply
face dusher would come out and shine that flashlight.
You know, the people that were talking and they would be so shamed back in the day, back
in the day being like the 80s.
And they're like, Oh my God, that kid shot the flashlight on the, I was being bad.
And you could tell that like, that guy feels like an asshole.
Nowadays nobody would stop you.
If an usher came out and tried to flashlight actually they'd throw their fucking phone at
the usher.
I was just say, get a soda throw it in this face.
Now I have a question.
What kind of movie slum and do you think I'm doing?
I'm just going to squend a shit hole.
I just didn't know theaters upgraded themselves.
Okay.
But you're right when you say there was tons of space, there was tons of space like it was
hard to hear the people next to us.
But tons of space means fewer seats in the theater.
And I'm surprised that they allowed that.
I'm surprised they didn't try to cram as many seats as they could.
Yeah, there's only seven rows.
I think there's like 34 seats, 35 seats in the entire theater that we were in.
And we were one of their smaller theaters.
It was a Fox theater.
But yeah, they do a good job while the reclining seats they're heated.
You got the tray table in front of you.
They do serve food, not like movie tavern does, but it's still a pretty good scene.
Well, without giving away any spoilers, what were your thoughts on the spider verse?
I enjoyed it right up until the very end.
It had a controversial ending.
It didn't have an ending.
Oh, that's a spoiler.
Oh, it's not.
People should know.
I wish I had a known.
Would that have stopped you from seeing it?
I may have waited until the part three came out.
I felt like I was Lord of the Rings.
Interesting.
All right, everybody.
I think we got to talk about this for a quick second.
So we're going to reveal a little spoiler in three, two, one.
So the end of this, this is beyond the spot.
What is this one?
This was across the across the spider verse.
Yeah.
So at the end, the action is about to kick off again.
I'm going holy shit.
There's another act.
It's movies amazing, but there's another act.
And then it pulls the old to be continued.
We're already set up for a part three.
And it was like, oh, you're not going to contain this story.
You're going to let it dangle until part three is made.
That yeah, yeah, that bought me out too.
That was I didn't see that coming.
Yeah, beyond the spider verse is coming out, I guess, probably in three years.
But this is going to be like three year intervals in between.
Seems that way, man.
That movie was so impressive that you know, they didn't whip it together.
I mean, they took a lot of time on that flick.
It was good.
It was really good.
But I have this complete disdain for to be continued.
I mean, think about it.
The greatest sequel ever, Empire Strikes Back didn't have it to be continued.
I just left them dangling up the bomb of Cloud City.
And it wasn't completely resolved, but it was kind of cool that the bad guys won this.
So if it didn't have a to be continued, would you have liked it better?
It didn't close any loose ends.
That's the thing about Empire Strikes Back.
It had a beginning.
It had a middle and it had some resolution as far as like, oh, we tried to do this.
It didn't work.
Now Han is frozen in carbonite and Luke's hanging off the bottom.
Like we know something else is going to have to come, but we still had an ending.
Interesting.
Yes.
The I think Empire Strikes Back was a loose end.
I thought that was without the to be continued words.
It was a to be continued moment because they said we have to go find Han.
We didn't think as moviegoers that Han was dead because they said we got to go get him.
And then you're like, all right, they're going to make another well a little behind the scenes.
The whole reason they frozen Han in carbonite.
Phamatically it was to get him to job of the hut and have him not escape.
But in real world Hollywood with him off making Indiana Jones, they didn't know if he was
going to come back and finish the role.
Like he wasn't under contract.
That's funny.
Yeah, they could have killed them off in carbonate.
You got to think about how movies have changed because of scheduling conflicts.
I was thinking I really like that comedian who played spider pig or spider ham.
John Malaney.
John Malaney.
And he wasn't they weren't in this.
You saw at the end, spider pig because I guess they're kind of saying they're setting spider
pig up for being in part three, but you didn't hear John Malaney.
Yep.
Sorry.
We're in spoiler territory.
Do I have to count every time I do a spoiler now?
No.
Well, once we declare spoiler territory, it's weird.
We're decapped deep in the spoiler shit.
So yeah, John Malaney wasn't in it.
And then, you know, I know some things about the guy's personal life.
I know, you know, because he was on Saturday night live talking about how he was in rehab.
So if he was in rehab and they were about to make the sequel, maybe they had to write out
spider pig and maybe they said, listen, we'll save spider pig for part three.
But if we write out spider pig, it would be kind of weird to have Nicholas Cage's character,
the noir spider band.
And so you know, we'll write him out to him.
Yeah.
Maybe that's what happened.
A Nicholas Cage is sitting at home going, but they did bring back Penny Parker.
She was back with her, a rack need robot for a millisecond.
Yeah, but she had some lines.
There were some funny spider Ben cameos in there.
Yeah.
A lot of that you could have seen in the preview though.
I was hoping to see more of them.
That's probably my only, no, I got two complaints.
I can complain about anything.
And I love this movie.
And I can still complain about it.
It was good.
So two of my biggest complaints, a little bit of crow barring in those Easter eggs that not
everybody's going to get, you know, when you do that and the whole movie has to be wrapped
around that.
Okay, here's again, everybody's spoiler, terror, a torre.
So there's one part where they're pulling in all of these different prowlers through
the multiverse prowlers, the bad guy in the first movie.
And in this one, he makes a quick appearance.
And the prowler is he's the uncle of Miles Morales.
So at some point, they're pulling all the prowlers through the different universes.
And then you see a human actor just sitting there in a cartoon world and it's a better known
as childless Gambino.
I love that you know all that.
Correct.
Actually, better known as better known as Linda Carrillo for us.
Yeah, great.
But he makes some kind of joke like, oh, they got me too.
Because that ties it back to the MCU, right, who's owned by Disney.
This is a Sony movie.
So I thought it was kind of fun that they tied back to a Disney movie, but it was also-
No, that was a Sony movie too.
That was not an MCU movie.
All the Spider-Man, far from home, no way home, homecoming, those were all Sony movies.
I think we have an argument here.
What I believe the truth to be is they are Sony and Disney joints.
They're both by both parties, right?
Because that's why they were able to have Tony Stark as Iron Man in there.
They haven't done that thing that they talked about yet where they were going to start doing
different Spider-Man movies.
They haven't started that yet.
I don't know why, but they put out Morbius, right?
He's in the other Spider-Man universe that we haven't seen Spider-Man in yet.
They put out Venom.
He's in that same other universe.
So everything Tom Holland is Disney?
Yes, really.
Until he starts appearing in the Sony Spider-Verse.
And I don't know if you saw it.
There's a new trailer now for Craven the Hunter.
No, I didn't see that.
It looks absolutely awful.
It looks like every damn thing Sony tries to make related to Spider-Man looks just like
absolute dog shit except for this Spider-Verse, which is always great.
That's interesting.
So he kind of straddles both worlds.
Can I go to Disney Plus and watch those- because I thought I'd have to go to HBO Max to
watch his Spider-Man movies?
As far as I know, they're all there on Disney Plus.
Yeah.
Really?
Including the Sony movies.
You win, I can see.
For some reason, in that deal, and I don't remember all the details of it, but they're able
to show those Sony Spider-Man movies in Disney Plus.
Yeah, because happy Hogan's in there, and I mean, they're all Disney characters on the periphery.
Okay, I take it back.
Well, I thought it was a little bit of a stretch to suddenly pan over to him, Childish Gambino,
where most people were going to go, "What the fuck?
I don't get it."
You know, it just seemed a little odd.
And there was another part they did with the Venomverse.
I don't know if you even saw Venom to know this joke.
I had no idea what that was.
See, that's what I was saying.
I breached everything.
It said something.
So you know what scene I'm talking about.
Yeah.
Right?
Okay.
So the running gag in Venom is that Eddie Brock would walk into this convenience store.
His old lady, Rannet.
And the first time he walked in in the first Venom movie, he's talking to Venom that's
now like part of him, right?
So the gag is, "Oh, look at this crazy customer.
He's talking to himself."
And it turns out it's Venom and she meets Venom eventually, but she gets used to Venom.
Okay?
So part two is like Eddie Brock walks in.
He says, "Hello, Mrs."
And then Venom goes, "Oh, Mrs."
So now she's used to Venom."
So in this gag, right?
The guy from the bad guy, the spot, which is awesome.
Yeah.
That was hilarious.
He jumps in and he puts his head into that universe and sees the same woman.
And he goes, "Hmm.
You don't seem very surprised to see me."
And she's like, "I see a lot of weird stuff because she's seen Venom in the other two movies."
Gotcha.
But if you didn't see those movies, the whole thing is lost on you and you just end up with
more questions going, "I feel like I'm out of the loop."
And I got to thank for people that aren't super, you know, watchers like I am that must
not feel that great, that they're watching all these gags and things going.
I just have no idea what's going on.
So the only thing I got out of it, because I do fall into that other category, I thought
it was just like, "Okay, she runs a convenience store or bodega in New York City.
She probably does see a lot of weird shit."
And it was like, even in that, you say it was a long walk to get there for the cameo.
It was a long walk for that to be a joke because like, why are we in this animated movie?
And this was like, again, for your world.
And it was like, "Yeah, this is weird."
Yeah, it's definitely weird.
And you know it was the Sony people going, "Listen, you got to give a plug to
the Venomverse."
You know, like it's our flagship superhero movie.
Do I have to?
Yes, you have to.
Fuck.
It's got to ruin the movie.
Yes, do it.
So one thing I thought was very funny in the movie and it was, this is not a spoiler at
all, but one thing that took me out of it a little bit in the first movie was just how
blatant the product placement was.
Huge Coca-Cola billboards and banners.
And I could see if he was in Times Square, but he wasn't even in Times Square.
Or he was like, he's swinging from one side of the movie screen to the other and it's this
huge Coca-Cola thing in the background.
Well, in this one, he swings past something and just his soda, generic brand.
So I don't know if they lost their product placement endorsements or what, but it was very
self-aware in that way.
Good.
I remember you saying that, you're like, "Ah, there was funny generic."
And I didn't really pick up on what you was saying there.
Good.
Everyone, go on and see it.
It's a great movie.
Really well done.
It's good.
Or wait till the next one comes out and then watch him and she can have an ending to that
movie.
I will say this though, for a two and a half hour movie, which it was, didn't feel like
two and a half hours.
Nope.
So there's no way they could have put more into it.
It would have been too much.
Your son is younger than my son.
My son loved it, but it was more story and dialogue driven than I think the last one
was.
So your boy being around 10?
I think he's 10, right?
He'll be 11 next Tuesday, yeah?
Like, and he said it was a little slow.
So I get that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I watched part one earlier in the day.
We saw it on Saturday, right?
Right.
Yeah.
He saw it earlier in the day on Saturday.
So that was a lot more action packed, a lot more with the bad guy.
The bad guy.
And this is hilarious.
I think with any superhero movie, a superhero movie can only be as good as the bad guy.
And Jason Swartzman played a fantastic bumbling goof of a bad guy, but he did it very
well.
I can't wait for them to go, hey, this is the real bad guy because nobody knows who the
spot is.
But stays without that whole thing and he makes sense.
Yeah.
He may have been on our list of most ridiculous villains because I'm pretty sure I saw him when
I was doing the research, if we didn't actually name him because he is pretty absurd.
No, very ridiculous.
So on a scale of five, I give it a four, I give it a five.
I'm not going to knock it down to a four just for a little bit of forced fan service.
I thought it was that good.
Loved it.
Yeah.
So there we go.
We average a 4.5 out of five.
Wait, it towards me, I better taste.
And guess what?
It's all CGI.
Sure.
It's all CGI.
We're supposed to hate it.
It's done well.
Animation is done well.
Very artful.
Well, move it on a little bit.
Let me tell you about something I was looking into because I said on the last show, I loved
dead celebrities.
Like I went to edit the show and I went, oh my god, I said that out loud.
I'm like, that's so fucking weird and creepy.
And then I said, but I kind of do find it fascinating because celebrities die all the
time.
I'm here about them and I started to go through a list of dead celebrities that I wasn't
aware were even dead.
So we're going to play a little game and I'm going to read some names to you, Scott.
And these are all dead people.
These are people that died.
But you got to tell me did they die this year in 2023 or did they die in another year?
Oh, okay.
All right.
All right.
All right.
Here we go.
The Iron Sheik.
Recently deceased.
Recently deceased.
Yes.
We just lost the Iron Sheik.
Ted Kaczynski.
Recently deceased.
Recently deceased.
You remember who Ted Kaczynski is?
You're in a bomber.
The fucking duty bomber.
I wonder if he had women writing him letters of jail, love letters.
I always hear that these crazy killing motherfuckers always have like some kind of fan club.
Kierste Alley.
Did you die this year or another year?
I feel like that was the last year I want to say.
Very good.
2022 December.
I don't think I know who treat Williams.
Did you know treat Williams was dead?
I didn't even know that.
Pretty sure I saw him signing autographs of a little bit ago.
I don't think I know who treat Williams is.
Let me a hint.
What would I know him from?
Lot of 80s trash.
I can't think I know I don't think he ever made a movie that hit it big.
He became kind of like a Tom Barenger like you knew him.
And then he kind of faded away.
He did like shitty roles until nobody knew who he was.
I'm going to say recently.
That's right.
June 12th 2023.
Very recently this month.
Fucker just bit it.
How about Pele?
Oh, he died long ago, I believe.
Pele, the famous soccer player died at 82.
I'm going to say he died a while back though.
He died December 29th, 2022.
Okay.
Yeah, Fucker was still around.
Still not this year.
I thought he was his famous in the 70s, right?
You know, I don't know when I was a soccer playing kid.
I know everybody was like, let's try to be like Pele and play without shoes on.
So all I know is Pele evidently played without shoes on.
Which is amazing if that's true.
All right.
We'll give you one more.
One more.
All right.
You're going to make it a hard one.
Jerry Springer.
We just did a Jerry Springer died show like two weeks ago.
He even listened to the show, though.
Burke Bakker, all these people died this year.
I didn't even hear about half of these.
Rakell Welsh, Richard Belzer, Tom Seismore.
Yeah, this year's been brutal.
Yeah.
All right.
Here we go.
You may not know this one, but knowing you, it's probably one you know so fucking well,
you'll give you a full biography on this person.
Harry Belafonte, did he die in 2023 or before?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You put your losers.
I'm going to say was this year April 25th, 2023, you got it, sir.
You win the celebrity death game.
Your prize is nothing.
How he made me mad at that.
Never would weird out gave away as a prize.
You get a drink from the fire.
Or the other song, the I'm lost on jeopardy.
You get a lifetime supply of rice or any of the San Francisco tree.
And that's not all.
You lost.
That was who never did the voice for that.
That was the same guy who did the voice for Saturday night live, the famous announcer.
Oh, um.
What was this?
I feel I'm liking to.
Like guy something guy smiley.
That's right.
Guy smiley.
He reminds me of guy smiley.
Guy smiley gave me the creeps when he would appear on Sesame Street.
It was like uncanny valley.
Like, you supposed to be a real person like all of them up.
It's supposed to be like animals or monsters or whatever they have like.
Prairie Dawn and guy smiley that was supposed to be like real people.
And that was it.
If ever there was a Sesame Street muppet that was a molester, I would have thought it would
be guy smiley.
Just did not trust him.
I'm not nervous, but you're shaking.
That's because shake starts with just like show.
A shaking show.
Isn't that terrific?
I got a great email.
You want to hear some email?
You know what?
Before we get into that, I have something for you.
Let's have it.
You want to play games?
I'm going to play games.
I'm going to play games.
You want to play games?
I'm going to do a call back.
Got a bad movie description for you.
No, right.
Let's do it.
Let's quickly describe it if you're a first time elisterous since we have all these new followers,
all these new fans.
Yeah.
Let's introduce you to something here.
An eccentric group of recent college graduates traveled in New York City to pitch their musical
to Broadway producers with mixed results in this family-friendly musical.
College graduates.
Want to pitch a musical?
Is this a popular movie?
Yes.
Very popular in certain circles.
And no, this isn't Scott got really crazy with show tunes during the pandemic.
This is actually like real pop culture popular.
All right.
In case anybody out there is struggling as much as I am, do you have any hints?
Any hint I could think of would give it away.
All right.
I got nothing.
So that-
It's an 80s movie.
It's an 80s movie.
I had the soundtrack on vinyl.
Fame?
No, sir.
Lombata for Bidden Dance.
Is that a movie?
Not this movie.
You want the answer?
Should I give it out next week?
I think you ought to give it out next week and let the people who listen.
If you got it, send it in through Facebook or Twitter, too much CGI.
You'll find us where you can go to the website, too much CGI.com.
And there's an email address there.
You can send it in there.
Let's see who gets it.
Yeah.
Send it in.
We'll read your name.
I'll fuck it up in a future episode.
Read it one more time.
An eccentric group of recent college graduates traveled in New York City to pitch their musical
to Broadway producers with mixed results in this family-friendly musical.
This is an 80s movie.
I probably avoided this like the plague that she did.
Really?
All right.
We're going to leave it there.
This is interesting.
All right.
Yes, who's back?
Tim Yokes back.
He said another note through Facebook had to be left in my ass off.
He says, we tried to watch for your height only and YouTube is literally playing an unskippable
ad once a minute.
It's more ad than content completely impossible to watch.
They played a 15-second clip of the movie at one point separated by two ads.
So I found that.
Wow.
Yeah, I found that same path that it was like, click here to get the next 15-minute clip
and then click here to get the next one.
Don't do that.
It's hard enough.
You can find the full movie.
Yeah, I didn't experience that at all.
So he was able to follow up.
He said, hey, I found another download.
It didn't play a single commercial.
I'm dying here when she's when she says, bold, though, his nickname is tattoo.
I just lost it.
I don't even remember that part.
This isn't just cheese.
It's a 10-pound block of 1970s government mystery cheese product.
I can't breathe.
But I'm so glad.
Pizza car advice and checked out.
Wang Wang.
I wanted only for your height only.
It's a great way to do it.
Love it.
Love it.
You can find it.
You got to watch it in 1981.
Where was it from?
It's a double here.
Philippines.
Philippines flick their version of 007.
They call them 00.
Which is a joke I didn't get until you set it out loud of the last show.
Are you serious?
I have so fucking literally.
Very demeaning.
I only went right over my head.
No, but it does.
The fun and.
I hear you have a great made segment for us today.
What you bring to us.
Well, you hear I have a great main segment.
But you have no idea what it's about.
I don't this time.
I love when we do this to each other.
We kind of, you know, leave the other one hanging.
Yeah.
This time you're leaving me hanging.
I have no idea what this is about.
This one here is going to be part two.
Part two.
In our toys mini series.
And this is a bit.
Off the beaten path for us here.
This is a little bit later than anything that we've talked about prior.
We're going to go into 1996.
Pokemon.
Pokemon.
Pokemon.
I got you.
So what do you know about Pokemon though?
What's your familiar idea with Pokemon?
Pokemon other than my boy.
I love it.
Like he was out there.
I don't even think it was the heyday of it.
I think it was like the third and fourth wave of Pokemon.
It was still popular.
And I remember the cartoons or remember the cartoons went into the theaters.
There was Pokemon movies.
I think I've seen most of the Pokemon things.
I even saw the Pokemon detect them.
Detect the Pokemon.
Whatever that is with Ryan Reynolds.
So I know a bit more about Pokemon that I think I should.
I even know that I enjoy being Pokemon characters when I play Super Smash Brothers.
Yeah.
Charge on.
Because he's one of my favorite.
Squirtle.
He's a good one.
Squirtle.
But to be honest with you in terms of the game.
Outside of like video games.
I don't know it.
Yeah.
I don't really know how to play the card game.
And picking this title.
It's probably much more nostalgic for me than it is for you.
Did you know my first job I worked at KB toys.
And every Saturday during the height of Pokemon craze.
98 I would say 98 99.
Every Saturday KB toys would host a Pokemon the trading card game Jim in the back stock room.
And that was a Pokemon Jim.
Oh my god.
Did you wear a little cap like a red cap?
No, I didn't I didn't dress up.
I did have badges to hand out though.
I handed out badges to kids that completed challenges and I would battle kids.
So I knew all about the card game.
But let's dissect what you shared there and go a little bit deeper into it.
And I'll give you some history of Pokemon.
So as I mentioned, 1996.
Pokemon is debuted in Japan.
Doesn't come to the States until 1998.
And then it hits Europe and Australia 99.
That year it all started with two Game Boy video game Pokemon red and Pokemon blue.
You said that will was probably watching this around like a third or fourth generation.
You know how many generations there have been in Pokemon.
I think they're on generation nine right now.
So since that debut for us here in the States, I'm going to focus everything year wise on us.
That's where we're at except for our fellow Estonians.
It was probably a year later for you, but 98 Pokemon red and blue.
From there Pokemon yellow comes out in 1999.
Pokemon golden silver comes out in 2000.
Pokemon crystal comes out in 2001 Ruby and Sapphire comes out in 2002.
Fire red and leaf green come out in 2004.
Diamond and Pearl 2007 platinum 2009.
Parked golden soul silver 2010 black and white 2011 black to white to 2012.
X and Y 2013 Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire 2014 Sun and Moon 2016.
Ultras Sun and Ultramune 2017.
Let's go Pikachu.
Let's go Evie 2018 Sword and Shield 2019 Unite 2021 Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl 2021.
Legends RCS 2022 Scarlet and Violet also 2022.
Jesus Christ these things just kept fucking coming and basically it's always the same game.
Now these are just games that were made for the Game Boy and they switched over to the Game Boy Advance.
And they made it for you know eventually the switch.
I know there's someone here that aren't even listed.
You mentioned Smash Brothers.
These characters played cameos and Smash Brothers games.
I had a Pokemon snap for the N64.
This is just all the Nintendo products that were just soul RPG Pokemon game.
How do they different from each other?
They really don't.
Sometimes you can pick a different starting characters and sometimes there's new Pokemon to catch.
And that's the other thing.
Do you know how many Pokemon there are in existence right now?
No, how many?
So when Pokemon first came out and they were debuted us there was 150.
And then they came out the Pokemon movie that one of the ones you mentioned and they introduced Mew as the 150 first Pokemon.
When Golden Sover came out they introduced another 100 Pokemon.
Through that entire list of fucking shenanigans that just rambled through.
There's now 1,010 total Pokemon for now.
Wow, what about that Pokemon go game where they're out there holding their phone that augmented reality.
Oh, I just needed to know if they had 100,000 Pokemon running around on the street.
No, in that there they were only up to 940. They did not use all 1,010 to Pokemon go yet.
The July 6th 2016 they debut Pokemon go the all mobile cell phones devices iPads you name it.
To your point people are now outside walking around the streets trying to catch Pokemon.
Sadly, I'm one of them.
I play I still catch.
You still do it's still around yeah.
Yeah, they're doing their best to kill it, but people still keep playing it.
They keep fucking around with it and raids and stuff like that, but no, I have almost all of them.
I almost caught them all though.
You have so much free time. It's beautiful.
If only there was a game that my wife and I played called ingress and it was actually owned.
I believe by Google, but it wasn't something they really promoted or talked about, but oh, I remember she was playing this.
Yeah, and they were like stops like Pokemon gyms off exactly exactly.
So she would go out and she would look for like landmarks and somehow this game knew of some of the most obscure to the landmarks.
If your library had a little statue of a woman sitting, you know, with a book in her hand, that could have been in this game.
There's all sorts of information maybe sent in from the people playing it.
Maybe it was from Google Maps.
That I don't know, but it was kind of fun.
We would go around and try to claim the landmarks and it was a very low, you know, graphical type of experience.
It was more about just like logging that you got it, but there were two teams.
You were either on the blue team or the green team.
They called themselves smurfs or frogs.
I guess like the community started to really build up around this and then people would go and attack each other's bases.
And it got interesting. And then this came out Pokemon and I was saying to me, I'm like, ingress is dead.
Like everyone's going to go to Pokemon.
I don't know if it happened where everybody left ingress, but Pokemon did get big.
It was fucking huge when I launched.
Yeah, there's three different teams you can join in Pokemon when you first start playing.
I'm team instinct, which is the yellow team.
I know that there's a red team and a blue team.
I can't think of their names right now, but I've always been team instinct from the get go.
But you can make friends. You can do rates together as I mentioned.
There are gyms. You can claim gyms and leave Pokemon in gyms to defend the gyms kind of how I believe the ingress game works.
So yeah, this whole thing started with a video game.
But then what came next?
Well, the Pokemon cards, as I think you mentioned.
And also the cartoon.
I would have thought the cards were first.
Oh, so the cards were put out by Wizards of the coast who basically made the card game very much a clone albeit a watered down clone of another popular, which is the coast game magic gathering.
But as far as Pokemon cards go, this is what the kids would come into KB toys and play every Saturday against each other.
And I still have a full complete set of Pokemon cards and they're worth some money. I have the Charizard. I have all the hollow foils. I have all of them because I was that fucking nerd.
It was a gym master watching your kids while you were off doing fuck all.
A lot of parents owe you.
So when you're playing the card version.
Is it the same as the video game version?
It's the same idea in that your character has attacks that they can do.
But in the card version, you have to attach energy cards to them.
So they have to have the right amount of energy to do some of the more advanced attacks.
And then there's like rules in each one. It's really a strategy game.
It's a really good game. It's almost like a form of like a newer age chest where like your guys have moves.
They have defense. They have strengths. They have weaknesses.
And it all comes down to luck of the draw sometimes as to what you have in your hand as to what you can play.
And it's still going strong. I mean, not as strong as what it was when there were toy stores hosting tournaments every Saturday.
But my kids are still both into Pokemon cards. We, you know, I mentioned like each birthday would be like the theme.
Pokemon was probably one of the longest standing toys that they played with as far as the cards go. And I talk them that the Pokemon trading card game.
We played it quite a bit.
We both got into it. I broke out some of my cards and me at a grand old time.
Does anyone age in that show like his ash now like older and Pikachu's, you know, kind of gray.
Well, that hasn't happened. Ashton step away from it. They had some other people coming in and filling for ash.
Then they did bring ash back for a while, but it hasn't been ash hasn't been a mainstay in all the episode.
And to speak about that, how many episodes would you guess there were of Pokemon?
There were no Pokemon series, no spin offs, nothing like that.
Well, considering how much I saw it on and I did watch a lot of it would just be on and I can hear the music of my head.
Did they go, guess that Pokemon? And then I'd be like,
Oh shit, I got to try.
Who is that Pokemon?
It's big as you.
But I would think that that cartoon, at least in that incarnation was around for seven seasons.
There's 18 episodes per season, which is a wild ass guess the math is somewhere around 200.
Here's what cartoon ran from 1997 to 2023.
And there were 1,250 episodes. Where did it air?
Where has it been airy? I guess is the question.
I don't only know. I know that you can stream them on. I believe Netflix has them.
Okay, my kids were watching. We probably watched all of them at one point or the other.
And now there's a new cartoon reboot out called Pokemon horizons.
Just started in 2023. The dates on it are 2023 to present.
And there's 12 episodes of that one out.
I haven't seen anything about this one.
Like I'm not seeking out Pokemon. My kids will watch it and I'll see it.
But they haven't been watching this one at all.
Did they ever do anything where they take like totally different turns on animation styles?
Or is it still always anime and they always look the same?
It's all been very anime with like the very shocked faces with the big mouths and the screaming and like the action lines and all the stuff you said you hate.
Oh,
So aside from the small screen, big screen 19 different animated movie.
I would have guessed 4.
19 now some of these may have been like direct to streaming.
Some of these may have been directed DVD back before streaming was the thing.
But yeah, and then something you mentioned earlier detective Pikachu Pokemon detective Pikachu came out in 2019 starting Ryan Reynolds.
And I did hate that movie.
God would have been I kind of liked it.
It was a good story, but it was too much CGI.
That little Pikachu walking around the real world.
Kind of had some like Roger rabbit, but I feel like Roger rabbit get it better.
I'll try to remember how that ended to is a really corny, you know, and the, but whatever there's a kids movie.
The ending was Ryan Reynolds soul was in the body of Pikachu, but Ryan Reynolds was the kids dad.
And we see Ryan Reynolds like he's.
He comes out at the end at the train station.
Yeah,
I'm gonna see like anything that guy does doesn't work unless he's wearing that Deadpool mask.
I had some stuff I liked really.
I think that movie Pikachu made buddy despite him.
I think people only wanted to be Deadpool.
Well now, but I don't think Deadpool would have been a thing if he didn't have success in van wilder.
He's been named for himself before Deadpool.
You know that Bert Kirschner guy.
The comedian always takes a shirt off big beer belly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
My wife told me he's the guy that.
Whoever came up with van wilder.
He's van wilder.
Oh, like in real life.
Yeah, like he's the inspiration for van wilder.
I have no idea if this is some bullshit somebody told my wife because my wife loves Ryan Reynolds that she loves van wilder.
I don't know if I'm adding noise to the internet.
You're welcome.
Hey, I'm out there.
I'm ready.
That's right.
The drop in the ocean.
Well, I mean, has to wrap up the toy segment here with Pokemon, you know,
in addition to the games and the cards.
When it comes to action.
When it comes to actual toys.
You know, God damn well merchandising had every single figure out there.
And even the initial theme song was like there's a hundred and fit at least 151.
Got to catch them all.
Damn, if kids didn't try people.
I mean, these toys were everywhere.
We sold them a KV.
They had a Burger King had a whole big giveaway.
And like it was like a huge thing where people just start going to Burger King.
You're trying to collect all of these action figures.
They're handing out in their kids meals.
So it was it's huge.
Still a big scene.
They're still coming out.
Like I said, the last game they came out with Scarlet and Violet,
which just came out in 2022.
That was for the switch.
So there's on the current Nintendo console.
Pokemon go like I said, still going strong and it just rebooted this new cartoon series.
So as far as where it is today.
I don't see any end in sight.
Still going strong, man.
I'm surprised he never tried to do that.
Thing that came out after them.
Digimon.
Oh, yeah, I remember my kid being into that,
but no, it was it was cards, right?
So like Pokemon, but they had action figures.
And the action figures could sit on the cards and somehow.
And they would like pop open.
They're like magnetic something like that.
And so it made it a lot more.
You know, bring the toys into the video game, bro.
Surprise.
They never took that approach.
They never got that involved with it.
But what they did do was they would read.
Like very special powerful cards that had powerful moves and things that you could only get at certain places such as in toy packages.
Or when you, though, the very first Pokemon movie came out in the year 2000.
People were going back to the movie theater.
Two, three, four times.
They had four very special.
More than brothers, stamped cards.
You can only get by going to the movie theater.
So they use cards for promotional things.
We just got cards this past summer in happy meals,
just by going on through the drive through McDonald's.
So they're still using cards to push people towards the game or towards other products.
But yeah, people still collect cards and there were shit tons of money.
That's funny that that's still something people do today.
Can't believe people are still collected cards today.
That's cool.
Well, I think I know why these cards might still be so popular, Bill.
But take a guess what the most expensive Pokemon card sold went for.
A million.
Exactly a million dollar.
Wow, it was just one of 41 copies.
And it was sold at auction for a million dollars.
You gotta be fucking kidding me.
The holy grail people kept going after when they were coming into the toy store to buy cards was the the hollow foil charizard.
At the time that was going for anywhere from 300 to $400 on the second market.
And that was going to be my last question.
Did they make different kinds of cards like that?
Because yeah, that is a thing I remember from the collecting days.
And did they come with gum never came with gum?
No, no gum, but they did make other cards.
There was so that I have the base set.
And then they did a jungle set.
They did a fossil set.
They did all kinds of expansion.
They almost have as many expansions as what they had different games here for the system.
They did re-release the basic set.
Maybe 10 years ago, which kind of pissed me off because I was like, oh, well, now there's a second addition to.
The one that I have now my values not going to be there.
Nobody's going to want this.
But last I saw charizard hollow foil is still going for probably around $500.
If you can find the right buyer.
Now I ask you.
What was your favorite Pokemon?
Sure, Squirtle.
Squirtle was my favorite.
But there's a close second for me.
My favorite are the only first off.
They're the only two I remember, but I just don't know who my favorite one is.
How could I forget?
Oh, I got this one.
How could I forget jigglypuff?
Jigglypuff is a good one.
He would just float around and go.
Jigglypuff.
Jigglypuff.
I will say for there being 1,010 of them, some of them you can see they just phone the fucking some of them are really clever though.
I mean, either in character design or in name or sometimes in both the original 150.
They had.
Abra who evolved in the cadabra who evolved into Alacazam.
I thought that was genius.
Some of them paid homage to famous people. There was Hitman Chan for Jackie Chan Hitman Lee who was a karate expert for Bruce Lee and then someone were just an offensive.
There's one called jinx.
I think it's wearing blackface.
I do remember the cat was really poorly drawn and I was always thinking, oh, really sucks.
And then yeah, I also didn't like the two the brotherhood sister with the weird hair.
Team Rocket. I didn't like team rocket.
What was making their hair stick like that?
A little something about Mary action going on there.
The only thing I knew in the 90s could make hair go that way.
Well, it's got we appreciate being educated, you know, as a father to a kid who was in the Pokemon.
I never did figure out what the fuck the magic was all about.
But at least now I have a better understanding of what the whole thing was, you know, that was going on in my kids world because I just missed it right.
I came out in the 90s. I remember being in college and just looking at some of these animated things that were that were all the Fox TV.
I think it was probably heard on Fox.
If I remember right here.
I think you're right. Yeah.
I think I did watch a little bit more Pokemon than I remember and you've brought that back.
So thank you for that.
My flag is this concludes part two of the mini series.
And that takes us right on to the news.
So you sent this article in screen rant.
Maybe you can talk about it because we were talking about it the other day.
You seem to understand it better.
This article discusses the potential return of the character Rocky Balboa to the GI Joe franchise and it's new energon universe continuity.
What the hell is going on here?
So this is all comic book talk.
There is still GI Joe comic books.
And apparently back in the day they introduced Rocky Balboa.
Yes, that Rocky Balboa Silvestra's alone as a GI Joe.
And when they did this, they did it before they actually had a licensing secured to do this.
So then they had to go ahead and do a retraction like Rocky Balboa is and never was a GI Joe.
But the way they went about doing it made it sound like this was a real thing.
But now he was dishonorably discharged and they're disavowing that he was a Joe and he disgraced the uniform.
So now what this article is saying is now that they have this new energon reboot of the GI Joe universe.
They really ought to reinstate Rocky Balboa do it the right way get the licensing and make him an honorary Joe.
I sent this over to you because I thought it was really funny how we were talking about William refrigerator Perry and sergeant slaughter in these real life famous people that became GI Joe.
I had no idea Rocky Balboa was one of them.
And why not a Rambo? That would make more sense.
Wouldn't it? He's wanted for war crimes. They can't get him past that morality.
We've never seen Rocky hold a laser gun. You know, we don't even know he has thumbs. He's always wearing boxing gloves.
So he can't do the Kung Fu group. We can't be sure.
What is this energon thing? Because that's a Transformers term. The energon cubes and all of that.
Well, much like you've been talking about here recently about the Hasbro universe in comic books. They are merging transformers and GI Joe are in the same world.
They're merging. They're coming together in the comics. So I believe that's the storyline.
So I wonder if that is anything to do with the other thing that I know about the Hasbro universe.
If they're still going forward with it or they've decided. Now let's just do a couple of the main properties in the comics.
Or they're saying let's try it out in the comics like Predator and Alien did and see the takes and then we'll feel safer without putting this out.
That will make shitty movies like alien and predator will create a whole bunch more disappointed fans with even worse GI Joe and Transformers movies.
And we'll keep making them and beat it into the earth. And then how about this shit? There's even more Transformers coming. Transformers won a cartoon.
Oh featuring some big name actors.
Like who? I'm glad you asked. Scarlett Joe Hansen for one Chris Evans, right? No. The other one is Chris Hemsworth. Chris Hemsworth. Chris Hemsworth.
So they get the whole. See you to do the voices for Transformers the new cartoon. No, but the weird thing is Chris Hemsworth is playing off to his prime.
Yeah. How do you feel about that? Look, the main guy Peter Cullen. Like he's the voice. I wish it were him.
He's got a retired some point, you know, he doesn't. I'm sure he made his bank on the Transformers voice alone.
So he's going to want to retire at some point. They got to get a new actor. So this guy can do it. I guess we can learn to accept it if it's good.
Crikey. Oro bots. A symbol.
I'm trying to get a new bot. Road out. See now that was pretty. Damn it. I get. I'm talking with my accents. I'm trying so hard to recall a crack a down done the lines. That's not a knife. This is knife.
It's not in a job. That's not in a job. Is it going to like, is he going to do a deep voice?
All right. Well, we can end with one little last news stories is we've been talking about this flash movie. I think people are just done with multiverse and I am after seeing the spider burst off.
But the flash movies bombing. Did you see that coming? No, I thought that was going to be huge.
Yeah, man, me too. I thought there was enough interest in this thing to see what they do. How they pull this train wreck together.
But damn, it's bombing. It's bombing. I never would have thought it would bomb like that. That means it's going to be on streaming like tomorrow.
And you told me about some of the spoilers so they're already leaking out. And the one I heard about. I'm just absolutely offended by.
And you do. I said, yeah, you want to hear a very horrific spoiler. And you were like, oh, you saw him like, no, I just read it. And it's.
I don't even want to see it now. Yeah, I think they went too far on that. I don't think we can talk about it on here yet too soon, I think it just came out last week.
But if you care, not until you're asked for the feather here, you care. It's all over the internet is this very much in bad taste.
We were talking the other day about spoilers. I haven't seen any spoilers. You must be reading totally different stuff to me. That's spoiling everything for you.
Oh, man, this may quite the splash. Well, maybe we give it one more week to marinate. Maybe we talk about it next week. How about we wrap it up today?
Everybody, thank you so much for listening to another terrific maybe our best one episode of too much CGI. Any final thoughts?
Now, I just want to welcome all the new listeners at huge influx of people watching, even if your bots welcome aboard. It certainly is refreshing and feels good.
It makes it seem like this is all worthwhile. It's not just us talking to each other, even though it's a good time. I do this if it's just me and you talking all the time.
People said to me, yeah, I can tell you guys are friends. It haven't been friends for a while. The way you guys do the show. I can tell. I always think that's nice and that's sweet. So hopefully that's coming through to everybody out there.
So to close out, I guess again, welcome all the new people glad to have you aboard. Hope you're having a good time just me and Bill shooting the shield like we normally do. You just get to come along for the ride and welcome back.
Estonians. We've missed you.
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